Comments for Hubert's Blog http://hubert-crowell.name Caving in TAG Sat, 04 Sep 2010 22:22:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 Comment on The Loop in Pettyjohn Cave by smckay3 http://hubert-crowell.name/2007/10/10/the-loop-in-pettyjohn-cave/#comment-1936 smckay3 Tue, 01 Dec 2009 02:02:44 +0000 http://hubert-crowell.name/2007/10/10/the-loop-in-pettyjohn-cave/#comment-1936 <p>Hubert,</p> <p>Is the Racoon room attached to the same room that has the 30' drop down to the stream level?</p> <p>I have visited the cave 15+ times and have made it to the water the past 5 times and want to visit other popular spots. I have seen a picture of the emerald pool and it has become a goal of mine. Are there any other spots with decent size pools of water? Also, what areas in the cave would you suggest as places worth finding.</p> <p>Thanks! I've enjoyed your site and maps.</p> <P>Yes the Raccoon room is just above the 30 foot drop, just climb up instead of down.</P> <P>The Emerald pool is very clear, but not too large. It is in a narrow passage that is high, you may see a rope there used to access the upper levels.</P> <P>If you follow the passage that leads from the back of the Raccoon Room you will come to a nice formation with a rim stone pool about 3 feet accross. The passage continues to the top of the Bridge Room. This is part of the Loop dicussed above.</P> <p>Have fun Hubert</P> Hubert,

Is the Racoon room attached to the same room that has the 30′ drop down to the stream level?

I have visited the cave 15+ times and have made it to the water the past 5 times and want to visit other popular spots. I have seen a picture of the emerald pool and it has become a goal of mine. Are there any other spots with decent size pools of water? Also, what areas in the cave would you suggest as places worth finding.

Thanks! I’ve enjoyed your site and maps.

Yes the Raccoon room is just above the 30 foot drop, just climb up instead of down.

The Emerald pool is very clear, but not too large. It is in a narrow passage that is high, you may see a rope there used to access the upper levels.

If you follow the passage that leads from the back of the Raccoon Room you will come to a nice formation with a rim stone pool about 3 feet accross. The passage continues to the top of the Bridge Room. This is part of the Loop dicussed above.

Have fun Hubert

]]> Comment on The Loop in Pettyjohn Cave by Hubert http://hubert-crowell.name/2007/10/10/the-loop-in-pettyjohn-cave/#comment-1935 Hubert Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:45:06 +0000 http://hubert-crowell.name/2007/10/10/the-loop-in-pettyjohn-cave/#comment-1935 I do not think you were in the "High Anxiety Room", You may have been up in "Peters Basilica", This room is above the stream behond the waterfall. If you did not see any survey marks or traffic you may have been in an unexplored section. there is a lot of enexplored cave in this area. I do not think you were in the “High Anxiety Room”, You may have been up in “Peters Basilica”, This room is above the stream behond the waterfall. If you did not see any survey marks or traffic you may have been in an unexplored section. there is a lot of enexplored cave in this area.

]]> Comment on The Loop in Pettyjohn Cave by scotliondad55 http://hubert-crowell.name/2007/10/10/the-loop-in-pettyjohn-cave/#comment-1934 scotliondad55 Mon, 05 Oct 2009 20:22:44 +0000 http://hubert-crowell.name/2007/10/10/the-loop-in-pettyjohn-cave/#comment-1934 I have been up to PettiJohns about 9 times now and I always go with a friend who has been there over 15 times. We have never taken any route except to climb down the vertical mud wall and follow the stream to the big waterfall. I would be interested in exploring other parts of the cave one day. My question is: last year we ventured up and over the big waterfall. We headed left and came to an area that was kinda like pancake squeeze. In fact it was too tight for my 210 lbs to get thru. I had to move to the right of the squeeze and climb into a short round passage to get to the other side. Once we were on the other side we continued to a room which had a slanted floor. The floor was slanted to the right and it appeared to drop quite aways down. We carefully crossed over hugging the left side and came to a small ledge. We used a fixed rope to get over that and kept going. Shortly after that we ended up on our hands and knees crawling in a room we dubbed the "Mars room" because we felt that the cave had taken on an otherplanetary feel. We didn;t go any further that day and we have not gone up there since. Is that room with the slanted floor "high anxiety" as depicted on the map? Thanks Jason G. I have been up to PettiJohns about 9 times now and I always go with a friend who has been there over 15 times. We have never taken any route except to climb down the vertical mud wall and follow the stream to the big waterfall. I would be interested in exploring other parts of the cave one day.

My question is: last year we ventured up and over the big waterfall. We headed left and came to an area that was kinda like pancake squeeze. In fact it was too tight for my 210 lbs to get thru. I had to move to the right of the squeeze and climb into a short round passage to get to the other side. Once we were on the other side we continued to a room which had a slanted floor. The floor was slanted to the right and it appeared to drop quite aways down. We carefully crossed over hugging the left side and came to a small ledge. We used a fixed rope to get over that and kept going. Shortly after that we ended up on our hands and knees crawling in a room we dubbed the “Mars room” because we felt that the cave had taken on an otherplanetary feel. We didn;t go any further that day and we have not gone up there since.

Is that room with the slanted floor “high anxiety” as depicted on the map?

Thanks
Jason G.

]]> Comment on View your cave maps on Google Earth by Hubert http://hubert-crowell.name/2007/05/06/view-your-cave-maps-on-google-earth/#comment-913 Hubert Sat, 22 Nov 2008 21:53:53 +0000 http://hubert-crowell.name/2007/05/06/view-your-cave-maps-on-google-earth/#comment-913 Tony, I do have an updated model of Petyjohn Cave that you can download at ; http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=76ea28191851f74662a645b9be21ed07 I have played around with the inside creating formations etc. However the file became too large to upload to Google. So you can get inside the model. Raising the altitude to view the cave is the only way I have found, semi-transparent ground would be nice. You can do that with SketchUp. Tony, I do have an updated model of Petyjohn Cave that you can download at ; http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=76ea28191851f74662a645b9be21ed07

I have played around with the inside creating formations etc. However the file became too large to upload to Google.
So you can get inside the model. Raising the altitude to view the cave is the only way I have found, semi-transparent ground would be nice. You can do that with SketchUp.

]]> Comment on View your cave maps on Google Earth by Tony Furnell http://hubert-crowell.name/2007/05/06/view-your-cave-maps-on-google-earth/#comment-279 Tony Furnell Sat, 20 Oct 2007 13:33:52 +0000 http://hubert-crowell.name/2007/05/06/view-your-cave-maps-on-google-earth/#comment-279 Hi Hubert, This is a brilliant discovery! I've just recently been getting into applying scanned cave survey overlays onto Google Earth; I'd only started wondering yesterday about the (future) possibilities of adding 3D views of caves into GE to be able to move right around them alongside the terrain environment. Must petition Google to start supporting semi-transparent ground detail (and some way to avoid the "camera" clipping the ground so you can get underground to the cave) I don't suppose you'd have any examples of .KMZ files that I could check out, to see the results Hi Hubert,
This is a brilliant discovery! I’ve just recently been getting into applying scanned cave survey overlays onto Google Earth; I’d only started wondering yesterday about the (future) possibilities of adding 3D views of caves into GE to be able to move right around them alongside the terrain environment. Must petition Google to start supporting semi-transparent ground detail (and some way to avoid the “camera” clipping the ground so you can get underground to the cave)
I don’t suppose you’d have any examples of .KMZ files that I could check out, to see the results

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